a sadistic leader is more like it

Mark says...

I rarely waste my time arguing with those who sees Aristide as a messianic leader.

For most of them logic, common sense, and the ability for a person to think for him or herself is replaced by absurdity and idiocy.

Which makes perfect sense because the belief and faith in someone erase all reasoning.

TIM TIM BWA SECHE MAKES A LOT MORE SENSE TO THEM. I'm not self-imposing, i believe in everybody's right to believe in anyone or thing.

I believe in no man or thing except Christ.

I was 9 years old living in Haiti in the early 90s when Aristide started campaigning for president.

I didn't know much back then but i liked him because everybody else liked him, I even saw him once. I thought he was going to help the country.

But then, i grew up and i began to logically exam his ideologies.

I realized he was preaching hatred and persecution.

Now i agree with on one thing, there has always been discrimination and oppresion in Haiti from the beginning.

As a leader Aristide chose to fuel the hatred and the division that existed among Haitians he advocated PE LEBRUN, burning people alive.

It's true the elite class has a sense of superiority over the rest of us. As a leader Aristide should have look for common ground to unite us, not advocating violence and persecution.

You never get any real solution from violence.

I consider Martin Luther King Jr. Nelson Mandela and Gandhi of India as great leaders because they did not use violence as a way to fight injustice because they had enough sense to realize that violence was not going to get them anywhere.

These leaders realized that unity and acceptance of each other was the solution.

Nelson Mandela could have encouraged the blacks in South Africa to rise up and persecute the whites.

He could have fueled the hatred but he didn't.Keep in mind that the blacks are the majority in South Africa like it is in Haiti but he didn't because he knew that was wrong.

These are men of character and charisma because while they themselves were physically abused and persecuted they nevertheless rejected violence and hatred as a weapon.

The US and South Africa are better countries today because those two historic leaders used nonviolence to fight injustice.

Things may not be perfect but the relationship between the many races in these two countries are better.

The topic is: no coalition without securing your hold to power
This is a reply to Msg 970
Posted by Mark on December 27 2006 at 5:54 PM

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Je trouve votre reponse a mes questions abherant en accusant Jean-Bertrand Aristide comme la source des problemes Haitiens au lieu des collabos et vendeurs du pays que nos ancetres nous ont legues. Jean-Bertrand Aristide reste et demeure le leader hi > >
Jolibois Selondieu, 26-Dec-06 10:48 am
AMEN, AMEN. la derniere election prouve qu' ils seront toujours mis en deroute. Apaid a garde le silence, mais tot ou tard,lui et beaucoup d' autres seront obliges de rejoindre leurs collegues: Halloum, Olivier Nadal et autres ou faire face a la just > >
Gros Janjan, 26-Dec-06 2:25 pm
I respect a person's right to support anyone, the devil included. Tell me if Aristide, a former Catholic Priest, was such a benevolent leader why did he create a division among the people that haunts us even today? And why did he say that with him > >
Mark, 26-Dec-06 7:21 pm
Il est vraiment un leader historique. Puisque l'histoire ne distingue pas entre le bon et particulierement le mauvais. Comme je disais je respecte la droite d'une personne de soutenir n'importe qui, le diable inclus. Dis-moi si Aristide, un ancien pr > >
Mark, 26-Dec-06 8:55 pm
The church itself was created to divide." SUBORDINATION at its best". That was yesterday: R. Reagan, Pope Jn Paul II and Poland,... you know it very well. Aristide had tried to say what people like would never say. For the"bourgeoisie, the game is o > >
Gros Janjan, 27-Dec-06 1:13 am
Vous ne faites que reprendre les propos de ces memes opposants qui ont execute Izmery en pleine ceremonie. Ils sont nombreux ces pretres ces" SAGES". Ils ont garde le silence. Est-ce par principle sacerdotal? Ou sont les "Technocrates"? Selon le > >
Gros Janjan, 27-Dec-06 1:32 am
As you said I respect your opinion and some of your points are well appreciated. Have you ever read "Le testament des liberaux" If you read those statement you will understand that Aristide has nothing to do with hatred in Haiti. It has to do with th > >
Jolibois Selondieu, 27-Dec-06 10:47 am
I rarely waste my time arguing with those who sees Aristide as a messianic leader. For most of them logic,common sense, and the ability for a person to think for him or herself is replaced by absurdity and idiocy. Which makes perfect sense because > >
Mark, 27-Dec-06 5:54 pm
Comme je disais la majorite d'anciens presidents et de premiers ministres n'a jamais fait beaucoup pour aider Haiti. Aristide fait partie de ce groupe.Si vous etes serieux au sujet des leaders historiques. Parlez de Martin Luther King Jr. de Nelson M > >
Mark, 27-Dec-06 8:45 pm