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< August 9 2009 at 3:02 PM >
Mark says...

No Tiba,
I am not blaming Haiti's failures solely on its inability to educate its people through the use of a common language.

I was stating that we ought to honor our ancestors by treating Creole with the same respect as we do any other language.

I diagree with your way of describing Haiti's failures is due to incompetence and mediocrity.

The two simple concepts you stated I believe are shortsighted, and overly simplistic.

To me it does not seem as if you regconize the depths of Haiti's problems.

Yes, incompetence and mediocrity exist in our culture, but we have to delve in further and explore the root causes.

I am not sure whether our intellectuals are doing enough to study the root causes.

Haitians must seriously study their society, and they must be brutally honest with themselves.

When I was in college I remembered studying the social disorganization theory, one thing that came to mind was that many Haitians in Haiti do not invest the energy required to improve the country because in their minds they are going to voyager aux pays etrange (my french sucks).

The recent graduate in Haiti is only concentrating on leaving the country, so noboby cares.

The people who can really make a difference are on their next flight to paradise in their minds.

Essentially, Haiti will always be screwd up irregardless how much money you throw at her.

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Posted by Mark on August 9 2009 at 3:02 PM



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Mark This language issue, as it relates to Haiti Quisqueya or bohio better known as Haiti Thomas/Haiti cherie, has been debated and talked about a gazillion times already. Mark do you really believe, as many Haitians do, that the failure of Hai > >
Tiba, 9-Aug-09 1:24 pm
No Tiba, I am not blaming Haiti's failures solely on its inability to educate its people through the use of a common language. I was stating that we ought to honor our ancestors by treating Creole with the same respect as we do any other language. > >
Mark, 9-Aug-09 3:02 pm
Mark, I agree with you 150% that Haiti must give the overdue respect to our Creole language. Even though you don't agree that incompetence and mediocrity are the causes for Haiti's failure, I still believe it is because when you take a look at > >
Tiba, 9-Aug-09 4:22 pm
Mark your post on Creole was excellent I love the Creole language I love listening to people who speak the raw creole not the so-called "creole francise". I agree that Creole should be promoted to a higher standard and it should be given due respect. > >
Zac, 10-Aug-09 2:50 am
Yeah Zac I grew up on Hip hop too. Just to piggy back on what you said Hip hop had a greater influence on me than Compas did, and it can be destructive to impressionable young people who are easily influenced. Hip hop is powerful and without a strong > >
Mark, 10-Aug-09 8:25 am
Tiba, perhaps you are more familiar about the Haitian government and the Haitian laws than I am, but as a diaspora I can't understand why Haitian citizens cannot take matters on own their hands. I believe Haiti lacks a true leader. Lets consider cuba > >
Mark, 10-Aug-09 9:14 am
Mark I know exactly what you mean, I only started listen to Haitian music recently, but mostly online. There's a guy by the name of Daan Junior, and also Alan Cave, they make pretty good music. I went to Haiti two years ago when I got there I turned > >
Zac, 11-Aug-09 1:02 am
Zac, Since 4 or 5 years, Creole has been the mandatory teaching language in the classroom in Haiti but only at the primary/elementary levels, and I believe both French and Creole are allowed in college level. If you listen to closely you'd reali > >
Tiba, 11-Aug-09 8:34 am
Tiba, you know I really don't mind Haitians speaking a foreign language, I guess what i don't like is when I meet a person who doesn't really speak good English and as they're talking to me in english I can sense they're struggling. Usually when I se > >
Zac, 12-Aug-09 1:02 am
Tiba Just so you know the picture of the guy that is shown at the beginning of the youtube video is not me. he's alright but i'm a lot more handsome than that. (lol). I know, I need some humility (lol). > >
Zac, 12-Aug-09 1:10 am
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