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< May 27 2009 at 2:24 AM >
P.z. says...

Now you're making more sense.

I, too, acknowledged that bad things happens to Haitians in the DR. I never denied that. What I took offense to, was the blanket statement that all Dominicans hate Haitians.

It's the same way, I'd take offense with a statement that all white Americans are racists.

While a good majority are, many of them are not. Otherwise Obama would not be president.

He needed the votes of many white Americans and the support of many wealthy white Americans to become president.

I can say the same for Pena Gomez.

He needed the support of many Dominicans to become mayor of Santo Domingo and ultimately run for president of the DR.

I never said racism does not exist in the DR. They do it against their own people.

I'll bet you the same place that the US congressman was denied entry in the DR, Sammy Sosa and David Ortiz would also be denied entry.

Those guys are Dominicans.

There are racists everywhere.

Am I gonna stop living my life because of them?

Hell no.

The topic is: I got cut off by Haitian embassy in D. C.
This is a reply to Msg 14811
Posted by P.z. on May 27 2009 at 2:24 AM



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Now you're making more sense. I, too, acknowledged that bad things happens to Haitians in the DR. I never denied that. What I took offense to, was the blanket statement that all Dominicans hate Haitians. It's the same way, I'd take offense with a > >
P.z., 27-May-09 2:24 am
when I was in High School I took a class on how to debate and one of the things i learned was to never generalize or exaggerate in a debate. When a person begins to generalize and exaggerate statements he loses credibility. But not only that if y > >
Zac, 27-May-09 5:06 pm
Actually Zac, now your on to a separate issue. We are no longer talking about if Tiba was right to generalize or not. What you have now brought up in the discussion is the question of whether the terms "generalize" and "exaggerate" are synonymous to > >
Linda, 27-May-09 6:40 pm
Zac - there is unfortunately something about debating that you missed in your debating class. No offense, but maybe you we had skipped class that day. When debating your arguments do not have to base only on facts. There is what's called personal > >
Tiba, 27-May-09 7:18 pm
Linda i like that fact that you chose your words wisely. In reference to your examples you used the term MOST rather than ALL. Whether it's at the high school, Masters, or the Ph.D. level the definitions of generalization remain the same. Semantic > >
Zac, 27-May-09 8:29 pm
Tiba from my experience whenever someone says "no offense or I don't mean to put you down", they are in fact attempting to offend you. I say attempt because no one here can question the level of my intelligence or education and for me to get offended > >
Zac, 27-May-09 10:07 pm
Zac We seem to be going around and around on this subject and it's getting very draining and exhausting. Zac, I took offense to Rush to generalize ALL Haitians as AIDS carriers because Haiti has been taking actions over the years to reduce the > >
Tiba, 28-May-09 8:06 am
We are not saying that the people in the Dominican Republic do not like Haitians.The issue is whether or not there is a judicial system in the D.R. In civilized countries, the government is in charge of providing judicial services not the people. Wha > >
Georges Metellus, 28-May-09 9:43 am
Tiba let me just say that I'm a levelheaded guy. I do not say things to aggravate or attack you or anybody else for that matter. That's not what a debate is about. I don't take pleasure out of insulting and provoking people. I believe in being respon > >
Zac, 28-May-09 12:37 pm
let me tell some thing: he who want to say that all dominicans are racist is an ugly black idiot who think the fact he is black, it is the faute of some one. no, properly speaking haitian is more racist than dominican. what you take for racism in D.R > >
El Caribeno, 28-May-09 1:47 pm
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