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< May 26 2009 at 8:50 PM >
P.z. says...

Tiba, I'm not here to argue with you. I'm here, however, to correct your false blanket statement that all Dominicans are racist toward people of dark-skin.

I know many Dominican people.

I used to go to Washington Heights in uppper Manhattan all the time. I also know many Dominicans who live in the Dominican Republic, some I've visited in the North and some I've visited in the South near the capital.

The ones I know, are not like that at all. I know a Dominican woman whose husband is from Nigeria.

How more black can you get than a black man from Africa?

You can stay with your view if you want. I just don't think it shows much thinking on your part to group all dominicans under the same racist umbrella.

There are some who are, but they're not all like that.

By the way, Francisco Pena Gomez whose parents were Haitian and whose parents were killed by Trujillo in the "perejil massacre", almost became president of the Dominican Republic until he died in 1998 of pancreatic cancer.

He was mayor of the capital Santo Domingo.

Some Dominicans didn't like him but a good majority loved him. When he died, so many people came to pay their respects, the biggest stadium in the Dominican Republic couldn't hold the people.

He was a very educated man. He studied at the Sorbonnes in Paris.

He studied at Harvard and Michigan State.

I know you say you've never been to the DR and you have no entention of going.

It's your choice.

I would just hope that before you talk about something you know very little about, you learn about the subject matter first.

You seem like a very intelligent guy. I'm just surprise you find it OK to lump people in one category.

When you do that, you're no different than those uneducated Dominicans who think Haitian people are no good.

The topic is: I got cut off by Haitian embassy in D. C.
This is a reply to Msg 14803
Posted by P.z. on May 26 2009 at 8:50 PM



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I see it's very easy to misinterprete my comments. I did not defend the horrible acts commited by Dominicans against Haitians. I was just saying that these kinds of discrimination happens wverywhere. It even happens in Haiti--yes, in Haiti. The > >
P.z., 25-May-09 10:48 am
It's true what you are saying, I think. The Dominican poeple is so smart men! the Douinican know well what they are and they force to make the difference, and there they are righ. it is the law of live: stand up for self and if I can,I'll help y > >
El Caribeno, 25-May-09 11:21 am
P. z. - You've done again! I did not misinterpret your comments. Both of your messages show clearly you are defending these people's criminal acts against Haitians. It's okay because it is your rights to do that. After all you are married to a Domi > >
Tiba, 25-May-09 3:06 pm
Tiba, He's not defending any criminals all he said is that not every Dominican is like that. And he's right. No doubt Haitians face institutional racism and extreme persecutions over there. When a government choose not issue birth certificate to > >
Zac, 25-May-09 5:05 pm
Zac, Zac, Zac, C'mon! don't do me like that. My job is to challenge through critical thinking. Go over both of his messages and read between the lines of his statements you will then realize he is defending the Dominicans racist, hatred sentiment > >
Tiba, 25-May-09 6:05 pm
I wasn't trying to say our relationship with Dominicans are all right. My gripe with your sentiment is that you seem to think that all Haitians are afraid to walk the streets of the Dominican Republic. I was just trying to tell you it's not true. > >
P.z., 26-May-09 12:39 pm
P.z. - I have never been to the Dominican Republic and I have no plan to put foot there either. P.z. I uderstand all of that cultural difference of the Dominican Republic and thank you for the lesson/info, I appreciate it. However, you seem to be > >
Tiba, 26-May-09 3:48 pm
Tiba, I'm not here to argue with you. I'm here, however, to correct your false blanket statement that all Dominicans are racist toward people of dark-skin. I know many Dominican people. I used to go to Washington Heights in uppper Manhattan all th > >
P.z., 26-May-09 8:50 pm
P. z. I do understand where you're coming from, believe you me. You have a lot at stake because not only you're married to a Dominican woman but like you previously described you have some Dominican roots or close association and of course your vi > >
Tiba, 26-May-09 9:54 pm
Actually the statement Tiba made, that all Dominicans are racist toward people of dark-skin, might be a bit exaggerated, however, it is not that far from the truth. If the shoe fits, than own it. Prior to the 1980s, it was not an exaggeration to say > >
Linda, 26-May-09 11:23 pm
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