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< May 26 2009 at 12:39 PM >
P.z. says...

I wasn't trying to say our relationship with Dominicans are all right.

My gripe with your sentiment is that you seem to think that all Haitians are afraid to walk the streets of the Dominican Republic.

I was just trying to tell you it's not true.

I've visited a cousin of my wife whose studying at the medical school in Santo Domingo, there are many Haitian students.

The first comment out of her mouth of the Haitian students is that they are very smart--the best students in the class.

When her brother was studying Engineering, he used to say the same thing of the Haitian students.

Anyway, it sounds like you've never been to the DR. The southern part of the country including Santo Domingo is full of dark-skinned people.

The people walking around don't look much different than people you see walking the streets of Port-Au-Prince.

They're black.

You would never mistake those people for white people.

You go to the North in the Cibao, those people look white.

They don't even listen to Merengue music.

It's a totally different culture.

They don't like the Dominicans from the South.

They interact with them because they have to. The Cibao is just as poor, but they have a skin-color complex.

One more thing about those folks in the North, they have a lot of in-breeding.

They don't think it's bad for cousins to marry cousins.

It happens all the time. Ask any Dominicans about people from the Cibao.

They have beautiful women there but some of them do have a skin color complex.

I hope, I'm a little clearer now.

I've had Dominicans in the D.R (black and light skin Dominicans) tell me that Haiti and the D.R. is not that much different, it's the tourism industry that gives the D.R. an edge.

By the way, my grand father used to drive the train that took the sugarcanes from Haiti to the D.R in the 1930s.

My uncle, his oldest, was born on one of those trips in the Dominican Republic.

Even though he was born in the hospital in the D.R, my grand father wanted him to be Haitian.

He didn't even give it a second thought.

The topic is: I got cut off by Haitian embassy in D. C.
This is a reply to Msg 14787
Posted by P.z. on May 26 2009 at 12:39 PM



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I see it's very easy to misinterprete my comments. I did not defend the horrible acts commited by Dominicans against Haitians. I was just saying that these kinds of discrimination happens wverywhere. It even happens in Haiti--yes, in Haiti. The > >
P.z., 25-May-09 10:48 am
It's true what you are saying, I think. The Dominican poeple is so smart men! the Douinican know well what they are and they force to make the difference, and there they are righ. it is the law of live: stand up for self and if I can,I'll help y > >
El Caribeno, 25-May-09 11:21 am
P. z. - You've done again! I did not misinterpret your comments. Both of your messages show clearly you are defending these people's criminal acts against Haitians. It's okay because it is your rights to do that. After all you are married to a Domi > >
Tiba, 25-May-09 3:06 pm
Tiba, He's not defending any criminals all he said is that not every Dominican is like that. And he's right. No doubt Haitians face institutional racism and extreme persecutions over there. When a government choose not issue birth certificate to > >
Zac, 25-May-09 5:05 pm
Zac, Zac, Zac, C'mon! don't do me like that. My job is to challenge through critical thinking. Go over both of his messages and read between the lines of his statements you will then realize he is defending the Dominicans racist, hatred sentiment > >
Tiba, 25-May-09 6:05 pm
I wasn't trying to say our relationship with Dominicans are all right. My gripe with your sentiment is that you seem to think that all Haitians are afraid to walk the streets of the Dominican Republic. I was just trying to tell you it's not true. > >
P.z., 26-May-09 12:39 pm
P.z. - I have never been to the Dominican Republic and I have no plan to put foot there either. P.z. I uderstand all of that cultural difference of the Dominican Republic and thank you for the lesson/info, I appreciate it. However, you seem to be > >
Tiba, 26-May-09 3:48 pm
Tiba, I'm not here to argue with you. I'm here, however, to correct your false blanket statement that all Dominicans are racist toward people of dark-skin. I know many Dominican people. I used to go to Washington Heights in uppper Manhattan all th > >
P.z., 26-May-09 8:50 pm
P. z. I do understand where you're coming from, believe you me. You have a lot at stake because not only you're married to a Dominican woman but like you previously described you have some Dominican roots or close association and of course your vi > >
Tiba, 26-May-09 9:54 pm
Actually the statement Tiba made, that all Dominicans are racist toward people of dark-skin, might be a bit exaggerated, however, it is not that far from the truth. If the shoe fits, than own it. Prior to the 1980s, it was not an exaggeration to say > >
Linda, 26-May-09 11:23 pm
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