Affaire St FleurCasimir

Jolibois Selondieu says...

I sympathized with you on this awful occurence.

There should not be any lawful reasons why a police officer beat another individual on a traffic violation.

Let's analyze this case, it was said that the representative has guns, if he was aggressive, why is it that all his people got roughed up and not one of the police officers.

Once the representative identified himself as a member of the legislature, the police has a few options:

a) Escort the representative back to the proper road direction.

b) Give him a ticket for the infraction.

c) Let him go through with a warning etc.

The police opted not to do anything lawful.

It is only in Mathematics that 2 negatives create a positive, in this case the police is totally at fault.

The police all the time break the law, speeding, driving in the wrong direction etc, no one ver rough them up, and yet they are hired gun.

In Haiti and anywhere around the world senators are a force to be dealt with. In some countries they have what you call senate police, capitol police etc.

I remained clear on my position, the representative has the high ranking police officer summoned in court and he did not show, as a result, the lower chamber adopted a resolution, there is nothing hasty in that.

If they refused to come out as they claimed, how would they know that they have illegal guns, that the car was stolen, when haitian police do not have computers in their cars in order to check such things.

Worst of all, the representative was one of them, one would have to question why they would need to treat one of their own this way.

I believe that the police break the law.

1) Violations of Human Rights should not be tolerated.

2) In any civilized country a law maker should never be treated that way.
3) If he was culpable, I do not think that the police was equipped to make such a determination.

I reiterate again, they all need to be gone, so that the police force learn once and for all that this kind of behavior will not be tolerated.

If the prime minister refuse, he should get a vote of censure, and appeal to the president directly to get rid of these police officers.

The topic is: Congress VS The Police Affaire StFleurCasimir
This is a reply to Msg 1330
Posted by Jolibois Selondieu on January 31 2007 at 9:42 AM

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It is a constitutional branch, and if the prime minister refuse to act on the legislative recommendation, that branch of power should give a vote of censure to the prime Minister Period! In Haiti we have three powers. 1. The Executive 2. The J > >
Jolibois Selondieu, 30-Jan-07 3:26 pm
I mist understood what you said earlier that’s crazy if this is happening. They should definitely investigate this further and get rid of those officers. In the constitution we have three branches but in actuality the president is really the only > >
Jean Batiste, 30-Jan-07 3:41 pm
On two occasions numerous members of my family were beaten by the police in Haiti back in the 90s. For no lawful reasons. I'm talking about severe beating where it took them weeks to recover physically. And in case anybody's wondering it was not pol > >
Mark, 30-Jan-07 10:41 pm
This matter being deferred to the judicial system, I think at this point everyone is supposed to have a wait and see attitude. We all know that there are three branches of power according to the constitution of 1987: the executive, the legislative an > >
Trebu Patriote, 31-Jan-07 2:15 am
I sympathized with you on this awful occurence. There should not be any lawful reasons why a police officer beat another individual on a traffic violation. Let's analyze this case, it was said that the representative has guns, if he was aggressiv > >
Jolibois Selondieu, 31-Jan-07 9:42 am
The Legislative branch is not trying to tell the judiciary what to do. This is a clear cut case. The legislative branch has the right to appeal to the executive in order to get something done. They are not asking the president to put St Fleur in pris > >
Jolibois Selondieu, 31-Jan-07 10:07 am
The endless revolutions in the Caribbean I Jean Batiste agree with Mr. Selondieu completely for once. US doesn’t support popular democracy In the Caribbean, US only support the elite in the Caribbean. The three braches that you all referring > >
Jean Batiste, 31-Jan-07 12:08 pm
You submit a formidable argument and I do agree with to some level. In any cases police brutality is unacceptable. But there is what you call necessary use of force to restrain a lawbreaker. I don't have any facts. Any information I have from this ca > >
Mark, 31-Jan-07 4:11 pm