Louinel The more you talk and the more I listen to you, I...

Tba says...

Louinel

The more you talk and the more I listen to you, I cannot help but to knowledge your lack of understanding on how government works.

Remember that I told you that governing a country is not as the same as running a grocery store like many Haitians tend to believe, and this is perhaps your understanding about government/governance.

You said: "We cannot continue to see leadership as a threat we must trust someone sometimes."

Correction: Well, my friend, I don't know what planet you're from, but once again, you keep showing your naivity and lack of understanding about government, the world and the conception of mankind.

Sorry to tell you this, but Haitian people have profound and justified reasons not to trust the government and to see the government as the biggest threat to their lives, their future, their welfare and their well being.

You seem to be the only one to trust the Haitian government.

In case you did not know this, but TRUST is earned and not a right.

If the government wants to be trusted it must earn it through its deeds and by the way it treats its own people.

You said: "How do we speak about governance and politics without institutions.

We must structure the state so that the people may gain a sense of direction."

Correction: Who are "We" you keep referring to to structure the state so that the people may gain a sense of direction?

Once again, you keep showing your lack of understanding on how things works.

Remember this my friend, it is not my job, your job, or our job to to structure the government.

This is the job, the duty and responsibility of the government to do. Only the government has the mandate/the authority to structure itself and set a direction for the people to follow.

People don't lead the government.

The government lead the people.

And the government uses the people labor force to builds infrastructures.

You said: "something is got to chnage, but we to do it one step at a time.You don't need crush my argument so that your can shine, we would do better to look at each other's view and try to see how we can behold a new Haiti."

Correction: contrary to your belief, you and me, and everybody else, do want change in Haiti.

We all want a better Haiti, but we all have different opinions on how to accomplish and bring the changes needed.

Personal, I have more realistic approach on how to achieve these changes while others seem to have a more naivity approach.

For example, I do understand realistically that no one, individual can build infrastructures, and provide electricity in Haiti, only the government can do that. Only the government can fix the judicial system, etc...

Don't fool yourself my friend, the people can only presure/force the government to bring these changes ONLY through streets protests day in and day out.

THat's how it's done right here in the US?

As much as the Americans want to end the war, can they end it really?

No! but they use the street protest tactic as a strategy to put pressure on the government to end it. The same goes about immigration laws, etc...

etc...

Don't think we, Haitians, can just go to Haiti bypass the government and change things.

It is pure illusion and fantasy.

The topic is: Bavo Preval! WHAT DO I RESPECT YOU?
This is a reply to Msg 12553
Posted by Tba on January 6 2009 at 6:45 PM

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Louinel You said: "you just don't get it.Can you do everything at once to change Haiti? You must be mad!Do we have the funds to chnage Haiti at once? just think just for a moment! Do it! Do it! You will surely understand me as you mature in > >
Tba, 6-Jan-09 1:24 pm
"ALL at once. However, in the politics of governance, the government can use the concept of what's called "Prioritization/the most important/urgent" on its to-do-list, which is different from what you suggested to be "one by one or one at the tim > >
Louinel Jean, 6-Jan-09 3:41 pm
Louinel The more you talk and the more I listen to you, I cannot help but to knowledge your lack of understanding on how government works. Remember that I told you that governing a country is not as the same as running a grocery store like many > >
Tba, 6-Jan-09 6:45 pm
You said he plans to build road, are you correct? There is a fool on the blog that got me all upset saying that Preval is going to buy boat instead of building road to save money. You do not need to kiss up to papa Preval because he is paid to do > >
Sebastian, 7-Jan-09 4:57 am
sebastian Calm down before you blow a gasket! read my post again, I was only using "Building Roads" as an example to make Louinel understand my argument. > >
Tba, 7-Jan-09 6:05 am
Be careful the way you compare American protesters with Haitian ones. We are destroyers. We destroy Haiti every time we protest, but the American protest in a more civil way way. If you believe that the attitude of the people is always right then > >
Louinel Jean, 7-Jan-09 9:26 am
louinel Correction: Not all American protests are peaceful everytime. There are times when they get very distructive too. You keep underestimating people fustration and anger. Louinel, all of your messages sound like you are teaching a sociolog > >
Tba, 7-Jan-09 10:51 am
The worst thing to do is to see your nation as sheep.By this mean a bush of people with no ability to help temselves in anway. Our people are rather a bunch of lions out of control. We don't need government to know that it is hazardous to put "fat > >
Louinel Jean, 7-Jan-09 11:42 am
loui You said: "The worst thing to do is to see your nation as sheep.By this mean a bush of people with no ability to help temselves in anway." These are your words man! I used that logic in a "metaphorical" manner. You do know what a "metaph > >
Tba, 7-Jan-09 1:13 pm
Didn't I use the word lion as metaphor as well? Sheep is a worng conotation for Haitians. We are politically violent. There was no time did I propose a messianic figure to develop Haiti.I don't know where you find this idea of me going back to > >
Louinel Jean, 7-Jan-09 1:30 pm
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