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< September 26 2008 at 1:56 AM >
Rubens Titus says...

This is nothing but ad hominen fallacies.

The educated ones have been in control most of the time in Haitian History except on a few occasions - Soulouque and his clique; Antoine Simon the absent minded...and a few of the Northern cacos.

You need to look at all of the government appointees not just the head of state.

The heart of the matter is that the educated ones have robbed Haiti just as much as the non-educated ones; for instance the educated Frederic Marcelin, Septimus Rameau, and many more have squandered Haitian public treasury to the brink of bankruptcy.

What is needed is patriotism and realism.

You may be right on many of your arguments but do not confuse cause and effect.

Slavery did leave us a bad legacy which our forefathers did not know how to address: a legacy of nepotism, a legacy of skin pigmentation prejudice because of the Code Noir Law, a legacy of violence as the first measure to resolve any problem.

However, violence is a learned behavior, a behavior learned by observing the cynical French during the slavery years.

You cannot blame the Haitians for everything that has gone wrong in Haiti.

Haiti is nation captured from France; the French built Gonaives in a flood plain, not the Haitians.

The foreign owned Haitian Logwood industry deforested the Haitian landscape not the Haitian peasants contrary to popular opinion.

Haiti needs understanding and wisdom.

Welcom to the revolution
rft

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Posted by Rubens Titus on September 26 2008 at 1:56 AM



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This is nothing but ad hominen fallacies. The educated ones have been in control most of the time in Haitian History except on a few occasions - Soulouque and his clique; Antoine Simon the absent minded...and a few of the Northern cacos. You need to > >
Rubens Titus, 26-Sep-08 1:56 am
When Haiti was ruled by those from the more educated classes it was never in the condition that it is today. That does not mean that the Western nations were not busy trying to destroy us, but we held our own against some major powers. The complete > >
Linda, 26-Sep-08 9:41 am
Linda, I would disagree with you. Think of Haiti as a straight line with a negative slope: the past years will always be higher than the current years. So comparing the present years with the past years of half-century ago is to me a moot argument. > >
Rubens Titus, 26-Sep-08 3:39 pm
Duvalier did not ruin Haiti. He had to have the tonton Macout to keep people in line. Education is key and 90% of Haitians have none, they act like savages. They do not have self control and can destroy a whole city just because they are disappointed > >
Sebastian, 26-Sep-08 5:49 pm
Rubens, you and I never agree on much. National evolution is never a linear line; it is always about ups and downs, good years bad years. The idea is not to constantly have people in power who are too stupid to get the nation out of the bad years. A > >
Linda, 26-Sep-08 6:00 pm
Yes, National evolution has ups and downs true however the linear line is the average of the ups and downs. Even with the overspread scatter plot that Haiti is you can still draw a linear line of the average ups and downs. And that line has a big ne > >
Rubens Titus, 26-Sep-08 8:57 pm