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< February 13 2011 at 11:47 AM >
Ablerooster says...

Jynee, I agree with the basic thrust of your message, with one exception: The reason france sold the Louisiana Territory was because she was embroiled in a costly war with other European powers, and was engaged in a dispute with Spain over the land anyway.

she needed the money desperately, and moreover, had NO way to protect it or administer it. Had she not sold it, America would have simply taken it, like She took nearly half of Mexico from the Mexicans and essentially twisted Spain's arm into ceding Florida.

Don't forget that many say, "America was born, and has thrived, of the Sword, and of the Sword, She shall perish." I don't necessarily agree with such a simplistic evaluation, but I must recognize that it wasn't coined for no reason...

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Media Critiques History of U.S. Intervention in Haiti By Nicholas Low Mar 4, 2004, 23:11 Rooster, Keep reading -- The Bush Administration claims it sent Marines into Haiti in late February not to intervene in the overthrow of President Jean-Ber > >
Baron Samedi, 12-Feb-11 9:37 pm
Baron, i understand that America has an atrocious track record in Haitian affairs, but it does not necessarily follow that we we will commit the same same atrocities all over again... The world has changed and I believe that America would be bound by > >
Ablerooster, 13-Feb-11 9:58 am
Baron, I believe a Public Treaty in which America disavows economic hegemony in the Haitian economy, would be a good framework. Haitian resources should be controlled by Haitians, not Americans. A panel of OAS observers would ensure that cold-blooded > >
Ablerooster, 13-Feb-11 10:12 am
A lottery should be put in place by which those who are literate in Kreyol are given an opportunity for business education and a role (including a financial stake) in rebuilding the Haitian economy. Contrary to what many believe, it is Small Business > >
Ablerooster, 13-Feb-11 11:18 am
Jynee, I agree with the basic thrust of your message, with one exception: The reason france sold the Louisiana Territory was because she was embroiled in a costly war with other European powers, and was engaged in a dispute with Spain over the land a > >
Ablerooster, 13-Feb-11 11:47 am
Jynnee, when arguing about the French territories on the United States, one must say the "Louisiana Territory" and not the actual state of Louisiana including parts of Louisiana, Missouri, Indiana, Kentucky, Iowa, Illinois, Nebraska and a part of C > >
Petrus, 13-Feb-11 12:19 pm
Petrus, what did I say to indicate that I am confused? > >
Ablerooster, 13-Feb-11 12:32 pm
Ablerooster, Haiti must make a choice between the Protectorate or an Independent State Associated with the United States for any economic progress to occur in Haiti. In today's world, there is no independent country that can stand on its own with th > >
Petrus, 13-Feb-11 12:54 pm
Petrus, just when I start to trust your intentions you blind-side me with insults. I don't get it.... Here we go again: A Haitian lecturing an American on American History. Let this sink in to your skull: I admire you for your pride, however self-de > >
Ablerooster, 13-Feb-11 12:55 pm
Ablerooster, I don't know what you said that keeps this conversation going about the contribution of Haiti to the wealth of America, but I think that you need to close this chapter by making a statement on your own so others can move on another topi > >
Petrus, 13-Feb-11 1:06 pm
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