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Rft, said to Tiba regarding how dirty Haiti is: "what you need to do is stop begging a president and start digging into your own history then you will...

you will gain a better holistic understanding of how Haiti has gotten the way she has gotten."

Statements like these have always been at the root of my disagreements with Rft. If Tiba were to look into Haitian history, he would not see anything to do with the filth that is covering Haiti today.

The opposite is true.

If Tiba looked at Haiti before Preval (maybe also Aristide), he would see a country where even the poorest people kept themselves clean and all the streets were kept clean because the governments in the past mandated that their citizens and their streets be clean.

As I stated a long time ago, there was a time that Haiti even mandated that hygiene be thought in schools.

There was a time that the government collected and burnt trash in Haiti regularly.

There was a time that state employees swept the streets regularly, not just when Clinton is coming.

None of that is done today.

Preval is such a swine that you have to wonder if he even washes himself.

Today, Haitians cannot--and should not--burn their trash, because the majority of what's on the streets are plastic and cellophane and will cause cancer if burnt within the small island space.

Today the only time the Preval government cleans the street is when a dignitary from another country is coming; than all the streets are cleaned up. This means that the government has the capacity to do what is necessary, but just doesn't.

I find it funny when Rft decides to blame the victim for the crimes committed by the Preval cronies, but I will go ahead and try to follow his logic and see where it leads us.

Now let's see his first point:
RFT SAID. Individual private citizen are responsible for getting rid of the trash on Haiti's streets.

POSSIBLE ANSWERS: Well let's say that the people did sweep in front of their houses and pick up their trash.

Now what is the next step?

Well, I guess they could stockpile all that trash behind their house and throw huge parties with their neighbors so that they could compare whose stack is taller.

Or, maybe each household could burn all that private trash that is fill with plastic and all sorts of other Western-made cancer causing material.

Than instead of parties they could throw many wakes to discuss how so and so suffered with their various cancers before they died.

I guess that would be a quick way to reduce the Haitian population.

There are of course other options.

Private citizens could start their own trash wars, and start hurling the trash they collected into other neighborhoods that are a distance from them.

I don't know Rft; maybe you have a logical solution for dispensing of the trash that individual citizens collect.

If so please feel free to clearly detail it here on the site.

If not, please stop blaming the victim and stop protecting this incompetent dishonorable, unethical government, who has not done anything that governments are required to do.

Oh! In case you didn't notice, so far, in every civilized country it is the government that collects and destroys public trash.

I am tired now, but will respond to another one of your comments tomorrow

Linda, March 10 2009, 9:14 AM

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Hi, what you need to do is stop begging a president and start digging into your own history then you will no longer be... read more >
Rft, 8-Mar-09 9:44 pm
Well, not quite right! Certainly government is elected among us to protect the welfare of the Haitian people. This is... read more >
Rft, 8-Mar-09 9:58 pm
Rft, If that is the case, I would suggest that you go to Haiti and start cleaning the streets of P-A-P and lead the... read more >
Tiba, 9-Mar-09 7:18 am
Tiba, obviously we have fundamental differences on the role of government. I don't believe in government like you do... read more >
Rft, 9-Mar-09 12:42 pm
Rft, I got you! you and I will keep waiting until Jesus Christ comes back until something might get done in our... read more >
Tiba, 9-Mar-09 4:46 pm
Rft, said to Tiba regarding how dirty Haiti is: "what you need to do is stop begging a president and start digging... read more >
Linda, 9-Mar-09 10:35 pm
Rft, said to Tiba regarding how dirty Haiti is: "what you need to do is stop begging a president and start digging... read more >
Linda, 10-Mar-09 9:14 am
I don't think so Linda. In 1915, the American Marines found Haiti in the filthiest condition that you can think of. (I... read more >
Rft, 10-Mar-09 7:14 pm
RFT, you did what you always do. You avoided dealing with the conclusion of your own error filled argument. You did... read more >
Linda, 10-Mar-09 8:26 pm
Linda and all:I am talking about abstract concept here! "Determination by the Haitian people to wanna have a clean... read more >
Rft, 11-Mar-09 6:24 am
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